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Mouths Moving in Motion Comics

I would like to know other peoples thoughts on the whole "mouths moving" when characters talk in motion comics. For an example check out the Uncanny X-Men gifted series. The mouths open and close (like puppets) whenever someone is talking - and there is a lot of talking! I don't like it, I think it looks cheesy and makes it seems more like a cheap cartoon instead of a comic that is enhanced. I much prefer things like Spiderwoman agent of shield.

Does anybody else think animated mouths change it from being a comic into a low frame rate cartoon?

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TOTALLY hear ya! I hate the

TOTALLY hear ya! I hate the mouth movement stuff. Its not a comic when they do that.

Aniboom's competition was like that. Everybody was trying to be clever and make the mouths move. One person even animated Nova breathing and talking whilst he was walking!

It was clever but felt like watching a cartoon. And not a very good one. 

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Yeah I saw some of the

Yeah I saw some of the aniboom competition. Some amazing talents out there who can make motion out of anything. Alot of it was impressive, I was most impressed by the people who could tell the story and engage me even though I'd just watched the same story like 30 times. After a while the 'effects' became less impressive and the story telling was the main thing.

Although I dont think the voting system was very fair. Some people got 30 votes whilst others got thousands. Seemed a little unevenly spread.

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Puts me off when they move

Puts me off when they move their mouths.

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Guys, it is not easy to do

Guys, it is not easy to do lip syncing. It takes a lot of time, effort, trial and error to get it right. Very difficult to get it perfect. They do it quite well considering they would have lower budgets than cartoon studios.

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You're missing the point of

You're missing the point of the discussion. Yes it's hard to do I'm sure. But we are talking about whether or not it's worth doing.

i.e. I don't like the presence of mouth movement in motion comics (regardless of how well it is done) - do you?

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No I do not.

No I do not.

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hmmm it does make it seem

hmmm it does make it seem more like cartoonish but i think that is ok.

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Karactaz

The interview with Karactaz gives an industry professionals opinion on it.
 

Be good to have a poll on it. Poll please!?!?

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I vote for it

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POLL IS UP

 There is now a poll for everyone and anyone to vote on mouth movement in motion comics.

Should mouths move in motion comics? 

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I hate polls when they don't

I hate polls when they don't get the result I want :( 

Apparently most people want mouth movement, but only if done very well (whatever that means)

Let's do another poll!! And everyone vote the way I want this time!!

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LOL! Is this site run by

LOL! Is this site run by Marvel!?!? I know no one who likes mouth movement in the motion comics yet the poll shows the opposite!! After this you can consider me retired from public opinion stating.

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Not owned by Marvel

Marvel definitely would not own this site it has DC comic heroes everywhere! And better ratings for Superman and Batman than Marvel Mo'Coms.

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I think my perspective on an archive approach is also influenced by my love for my local comic shop. Whilst they do sell TPB's and some older back issues their main bulk sales are the new releases (and back stock of the last 5-6 issues) and the folders that regulars have.

I'd miss that monthly experience to go and empty the folder, and see if they've spotted anything they think will peak my interest. It's that personal touch I'd hate to lose. I see where you're coming from, but I hate to think of the possible effect an approach like that could have on a paper & ink store, and I'd imagine Marvel & DC would (and maybe already are) feeling considerable leaning from the newsstand and wholesale trade. A digital distribution model for new comics could impact heavily on Diamond Select and their various customers.

Whichever approach the comic corps decide to take they need to start moving forward at a quicker pace they're slacking severely right now.

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Mouths should be animated

Of course they should 'move', as long as they are animated. In otherwords, they need to be done right, and not cheaply. The content needs to be compelling, not lazy. As I like to say, just because you made it move doesn't mean you animated it.

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Mouths moving in motion comics.

I'm indifferent about it. It feels better at times & at times it looks wrong. I liked it on The Walking Dead but hated it on some parts of The Secret & Thor & Loki. It looked okay on Astonishing X-Men, so I figure the closer the art is to comic book art, like in Uncharted & Astonishing X-Men, I can swing it but with more realistic art, it's still dicey for me. It's only gonna work when motion comics become the bigger budget fare they're meant to be. It's still early, business models are being carved out so small bets are being taken.

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